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Mõnda aega tagasi rääkisin teemas "Milliseid õpetusi võiks lisada" et võiks olla õpetus tarkvara paigaldus tar.gz pakist aga seal sain vastuse, et nende paigaldamise viise on seinast seina. OK see selleks ja olen nõus. Kuna ise pole veel siiani ühtegi tarkvara paigaldanud noist pakkidest siis paluks tiba abi ja teeks oma esimesed sammud ära sellel alal. Eks edasine on juba tiba lihtsam kui korra on see tee läbi käidud, vähemasti on mingisugunegi pilt silme ees.
 
 
Nii sikutasin omal ära hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx.tar.gz  paksin lahti  käsureal ja olen ka kaustas sees kus nuid edasi peaks toimuma mingi käsuga install/paigaldamine aga siit ei oska ma enam midagi edasi teha ...    
 
 
Hetkel olen siis terminalis nii kaugel oma asjadega 
 
 
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[iffi@iffikas ~]$ cd /home/iffi/hamachi
 
[iffi@iffikas hamachi]$ dir
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx.tar.gz
 
[iffi@iffikas hamachi]$ tar zxvf hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx.tar.gz
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/Makefile
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/LICENSE
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/README
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/LICENSE.tuncfg
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/LICENSE.openssh
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/LICENSE.openssl
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/hamachi
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/tuncfg/
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/tuncfg/Makefile
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/tuncfg/tuncfg.c
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/tuncfg/tuncfg
 
hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/CHANGES
 
[iffi@iffikas hamachi]$ cd hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx/
 
[iffi@iffikas hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx]$ make install
 
bash: make: command not found
 
[iffi@iffikas hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx]$ su
 
Password:
 
[root@iffikas hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx]# make install
 
bash: make: command not found
 
[root@iffikas hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx]# make file
 
bash: make: command not found
 
[root@iffikas hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx]#   
 
 
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ja readme faili sisu siis järgmine (lisan kogu sisu siis mitte aint install osa)
 
 
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Hamachi is a zero-configuration virtual private networking tool.
 
 
   http://hamachi.cc
 
 
Quick Start
 
 
   Run 'make install' and then 'tuncfg' from under the root account
 
 
   Run 'hamachi-init' to generate crypto identity (any account).
 
 
   Run 'hamachi start' to launch Hamachi daemon.
 
 
   Run 'hamachi login' to put the daemon online and to create an account.
 
 
   Run 'hamachi join <network>' to join the network.
 
 
   Run 'hamachi go-online <network>' to go online in the network.
 
 
   Run 'hamachi list' to list network members and their status.
 
 
Requirements & Privileged Access
 
 
   Hamachi requires TUN/TAP device driver to create and manage virtual
 
   network interface. If you have /dev/net/tun file, you are all set. 
 
   Otherwise visit the following page for more information -
 
 
      http://hamachi.cc/tuntap
 
 
   Unless you are planning to use Hamachi exclusively from under the
 
   root account, you will need to run 'tuncfg' daemon. This daemon
 
   encapsulates all root-level functionality required by Hamachi and
 
   it must be running prior to launching Hamachi itself.
 
 
   Tuncfg is distributed in a source code under the BSD license. You 
 
   can find the source code in ./tuncfg directory of this distribution.
 
   
 
   Running 'make install' automatically builds tuncfg and installs it
 
   in /sbin folder. If you would prefer to install it in altervative
 
   directory, modify ./Makefile accordingly.
 
 
Installation
 
 
   Hamachi Linux client comes as a single executable binary (hamachi)
 
   compiled for the platform of your choice. This binary includes the 
 
   daemon, the control application and the setup utility.
 
 
   To install hamachi in /usr/bin run the following command from under
 
   the root account
 
 
      make install
 
 
   Once installed you must run 'tuncfg' daemon with root privileges -
 
 
      sudo /sbin/tuncfg
 
 
   or if you don't have sudo -
 
 
      su - ; /sbin/tuncfg; exit
 
 
   Hamachi requires one time initialization (per Linux user account).
 
   This step generates cryptographic key pair and creates ~/.hamachi 
 
   directory where Hamachi stores the keys, the configuration and the 
 
   state. To perform this initialization run
 
 
      ./hamachi-init
 
 
Running Hamachi
 
 
   Running Hamachi involves starting it as a background process and 
 
   then controlling this process from the command line. To launch 
 
   Hamachi daemon run -
 
 
      ./hamachi start
 
 
   To stop the daemon run -
 
 
      ./hamachi stop
 
 
   Running hamachi without an argument displays daemon's status -
 
 
      version  : hamachi-lnx-0.9.9.9
 
      pid      : 956
 
      status   : logging in
 
      nickname : buddy
 
 
   When run for the first time the daemon stays offline. To bring
 
   it online run -
 
 
      ./hamachi login
 
 
   To bring it back offline use -
 
 
      ./hamachi logout
 
 
   Note that the daemon remembers its state when it is shutdown with
 
   'stop' command. So if its state was online, it will automatically
 
   go online when started next time. If it was offline, it will stay
 
   offline.
 
   
 
Network Operations
 
 
   Once logged in, you can join the networks using 'hamachi join'
 
   command. You will be prompted for the password if it is required. 
 
 
   You may also create your own networks using 'hamachi create'. You
 
   will become an owner of any networks that you create and only you
 
   will be able to destroy these networks with 'hamachi delete' command.
 
   
 
   With 'hamachi evict' you can remove unwanted members from the networks
 
   that you own.
 
   
 
   Note that you will stay offline in the network after you create or
 
   join it. To go online in the network use 'hamachi go-online' command.
 
 
   Two other commands 'hamachi go-offline' and 'hamachi leave' reverse
 
   the effect of the first two.
 
 
   Note again that the daemon remembers your network state. If you 
 
   logout or shutdown the daemon while being online in a network, the 
 
   daemon will automatically put you back online in it on the next logon.
 
   
 
Listing Peers
 
 
   To view the list of all networks and their members run -
 
 
      ./hamachi list
 
 
   Network names are enclosed in square brakets. The asterisk (*) in
 
   front of the network name means that you are online in this network.
 
 
      * [homelan]
 
           * 5.0.0.15
 
           x 5.0.0.16        ronny
 
             5.0.0.17        bubba
 
           * 5.0.0.18        zhopa      10.0.0.100:45634
 
      
 
   Underneath the network there is a peer list. Online peers will have
 
   their IP address prefixed by an asterisk (*) or an (x). 
 
 
   (*) means that the tunnel to the peer is either being established or
 
       ready. In latter case, peer's tunnel address will be shown on the 
 
       right side of the list.
 
 
   (x) means that the peer in unreachable, ie the mediation server failed
 
       to establish p2p tunnel between you and the peer.
 
   
 
   If peer's nickname is known, it will be shown too. To retrieve peers'
 
   nicks use 'hamachi get-nicks' command.
 
 
Miscellaneous
 
 
   You can also change your own nick by using 'hamachi set-nick' command.
 
   If you are online, the change will occur immediately. Otherwise new
 
   nick will be remembered and the change will occur at the next login. 
 
   
 
 
========================================================================
 
Copyright (c) 2004-2006, Applied Networking Inc. All rights reserved.
 
 
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Et kuidas ma peaksin siis edasi toimima, millised käsud sisestama.
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| seal kataloogis root kasutaja õigustes käsk make install
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Puudu olidgi siis need gcc ja make, lasin need peale ja sain isegi nuid käsuga make install edasi kuid jälle kännu taga 
 
 
Mu üritus on hetkel nii kaugel siis
 
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Copying hamachi into /usr/bin ..
 
Creating hamachi-init symlink ..
 
Compiling tuncfg ..
 
Copying tuncfg into /sbin ..
 
 
Hamachi is installed. See README for what to do next.
 
[root@iffikas hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx]# sudo /sbin/tuncfg+
 
sudo: /sbin/tuncfg+: command not found
 
[root@iffikas hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx]# cd ~
 
[root@iffikas ~]# su - ; /sbin/tuncfg; exit
 
[root@iffikas ~]# ./hamachi-init
 
-bash: ./hamachi-init: No such file or directory
 
[root@iffikas ~]# 			 		 | 	  
 
 
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Tõlgime Sinu antud käsu:
 
 "./hamachi-init " -- siin kataloogis, kus ma praegu asun, on fail nimega "hamachi-init", see on käivitatav ja pääle enteri vajutamist tahan ma, et see käivituks.
 
 
Kas tõlgitu vastab sellele, mida Sa ka tegelikult tahad?
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| Mina installisin hamachi Synaptic kuga. PCLinuxOS il on see Synapticu listis olemas ja töötab kah ilusti.Tekkib küsimus kas  Mandriva Linux 2008 installitavate progede listis pole teda? Nagu aru saan kasutab -IFFI-  Mandriva Linux 2008 osi nagu tal tutvustuses on.
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| Ei paista olevat - ka mitte cookeris. Aga ma usun, et kui avaldada vastavat soovi Mandriva Bugzilla kaudu ( http://qa.mandriva.com/ ), siis on see seal peagi olemas (ilmselt ei ole siis seni seda kellelgi vaja olnud).
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| Vüibolla ka asi selles,et linuxi all ei leia hamachi piisavalt rakendust kuna linuxi all ei mängita nii palju,Wini all kasutatakse hamachi väga palju mängimisel luues omi võrke,et kinniste portide taga olevad inimesed saaks üle võrgu männgida ja faile vahetada.?
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NU    mai sa edasi ja aru. Make install on tehtud, readme failis on edasised sammud järgmised:
 
 
Once installed you must run 'tuncfg' daemon with root privileges -
 
 
		sudo /sbin/tuncfg
 
 
	or if you don't have sudo -
 
 
		su - ; /sbin/tuncfg; exit
 
 
	Hamachi requires one time initialization (per Linux user account).
 
	This step generates cryptographic key pair and creates ~/.hamachi 
 
	directory where Hamachi stores the keys, the configuration and the 
 
	state. To perform this initialization run
 
 
		./hamachi-init
 
 
ja mu terminali pilt järgmine
 
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Copying hamachi into /usr/bin ..
 
Creating hamachi-init symlink ..
 
Compiling tuncfg ..
 
Copying tuncfg into /sbin ..
 
 
Hamachi is installed. See README for what to do next.
 
[root@iffikas hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx]#			 		 | 	  
 
 
olen igasugu jama sisetsanud käsureale a nu ei saa hakkama. Mai sa eriti täpselt ka aru (kuna keelega on ka nii nagu on) kas ma pean selle  ~/.hamachi  kausta ka looma kuhugi selle võtme tarbeks või?
 
Kuidas ma oma hetke olukoras edasi pean käituma...
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Mulle meeldib terminali põhiselt rohkem. Olen teinud isegi väiksed shortcutid kiiremaks liikumiseks.
 
 
hamastart
 
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#!/usr/bin/env ruby
 
exec 'sudo tuncfg; hamachi start;'
 
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hamajoin (network) (password)
 
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#!/usr/bin/env ruby
 
network = ARGV[0]
 
password = ARGV[1] ||= "dota"
 
 
if network.nil?
 
  print "Network not specified\n"
 
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end
 
exec "hamachi join '#{network}' '#{password}'; hamachi go-online '#{network}';"
 
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need failid siis /usr/bin kaustas. Hea lihtne joinida kuhugi. Lihtsalt 'hamajoin minginetwork' ja korras.
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Nii sikutasin KristjanS antud lingilt http://www.penguinbyte.com/software/ghamachi/  omal selel ghamaci ära ja lasin käima ja piha graaviline junn on ees aga nuppudel pole pilte ja terminalis jooksevad allolevad errorid.
 
Miskisugune jubin on puudu (arvatavasti see GTK) või vana versioon... aru ma jälle ei saa nagu alati, mis jubina ma pean juurde installima. Eriti ei tahaks uskuda, et GTK on miski vana mul. Mis käsuga ma saan teada versiooni temast?
 
 
ERRORID
 
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(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-WARNING **: The gdk_draw_*_image require the drawable argument to
 
have a specified colormap. All windows have a colormap,
 
however, pixmaps only have colormap by default if they
 
were created with a non-NULL window argument. Otherwise
 
a colormap must be set on them with gdk_drawable_set_colormap
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_pixmap_set: assertion `gdk_colormap_get_visual (gtk_widget_get_colormap (GTK_WIDGET (pixmap)))->depth == gdk_drawable_get_depth (GDK_DRAWABLE (val))' faile
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_drawable_get_size: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_copy: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_saturate_and_pixelate: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (src)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_pixbuf: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_drawable_get_size: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_from_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_copy: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_saturate_and_pixelate: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (src)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixmap_new: assertion `(width != 0) && (height != 0)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_pixbuf: assertion `GDK_IS_DRAWABLE (drawable)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_pixmap_set: assertion `gdk_colormap_get_visual (gtk_widget_get_colormap (GTK_WIDGET (pixmap)))->depth == gdk_drawable_get_depth (GDK_DRAWABLE (val))' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
 
(ghamachi:11578): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_drawable: assertion `src != NULL' failed
 
                                                    
 
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Kõik on kaunsi ja ikka nokk kinni saba lahti... üritan siis nuid paigaldada seda Quamachit, sellel jälle puudu miski qt4 pakk...pea 2 tundi kimand mööda netti ja mitte ei leia (tegelt mingi leidsin aga seda peab ise kompileerima mida mina kohe mitte ei oska)
 
 
A selle eelmisega Qhamachiga on isegi pilt ees ja võrgusgi asi aga need errorid jooksevad ikkagi, on ehk kuidagi võimalik neid eemaldada?
 
 
Oskab mulle keegi veel miskit nõu jagada nendele probleemidele? emba kumba kas qhamaci või quamachi suhtes.
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| mis Qt4 sa ise kompileerima pead? Seda hoidlas pole siis või? Muidu peaks üldiselt Qt4 olema täiesti hoidlas olemas - nii 2008 kui ka cookeri puhul.
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Mhh, ma sikutasin ka hoidlast kõikvõimaliku Qt4 nimelised jubina peale, a tolku miskit... enne see kompileerimist tarvis pak oli vist miski srpms nime osaga, vähemasti paigaldamise käigus küsis kas sa ikka tahad seda paigaldada ja hiljem kompileerida...vähemasti miski selline jutt oli, ja paigaldamise käigus oleks paigaldatus miski 79 pakikest, Ise enesest mõistetav, et saatsins selle pikalt, ma ei oska tollega midagi teha  
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