Täpitähtede probleem Kubuntu failinimedes.

hjuumen · Postitus Postitas **hjuumen** » 22.02.2014, 11:31

Kasutan Kubuntut nüüd juba järjest umbes aastajagu ning olen saanud ta enese jaoks niikaugele, et kõik on nii nagu "peab" (winilt üleminek on harjumatu paljudele). Ainus asi, mida pole suutnud lahendada on errorid täpitähtedega failinimedes. Näiteks kui üritan thunderbirdis avada manust: Tööde list.pdf siis tuleb error: could not open - failinimes on täpitähed mingid muud sümbolid. Kui salvestan faili eelnevalt arvutisse, siis laseb avada. Samuti ei õnnestu Libre Office-s salvestada täpitähtedega failinime. Muusikafailides on muutunud (algusest peale) täpitähed muudeks sümboliteks ja kui salvestan mõne õigete tähtedega muusikafaili, siis ei lase seda avata. Samas just proovisin üht nime õigeks tagasi muuta- muutus ja avas samuti. Süsteemikeel on eesti, samuti klaveri layout.
Kas on kellelgi aimu, kustpoolt viga otsida? Suht segane jutt jäi

SYSTEM INFORMATION
Running Ubuntu Linux, the Ubuntu 13.10 (saucy) release.
GNOME: unknown (unknown)
Kernel version: 3.11.0-17-generic (#31-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 3 21:53:31 UTC 2014)
GCC: no gcc detected
Xorg: 1.14.5 (17 December 2013 10:03:52AM) (17 December 2013 10:03:52AM)

Postitus Postitas **sander85** » 22.02.2014, 15:23

Mis käsu locale väljund on?

hjuumen · Postitus Postitas **hjuumen** » 22.02.2014, 16:18

sander85 kirjutas:Mis käsu locale väljund on?

locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=et_EE.ISO-8859-1
LANGUAGE=et:en
LC_CTYPE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NUMERIC="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TIME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_COLLATE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MONETARY="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MESSAGES="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_PAPER="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NAME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ADDRESS="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TELEPHONE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MEASUREMENT="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ALL=
Kui see on see, mida silmas pidasid

Postitus Postitas **sander85** » 22.02.2014, 20:31

See on see jah. Ja tulemus on selline nagu ma kartsin. ISO-8859-1 asemel oleks tahtnud näha UTF-8, paraku ei tea ma, et kuidas täpselt seda antud buntu peal muuta üldse saab, nii et tulemus poleks päris fataalne. Ehk oskavad buntu kasutajad ses osas nõu anda..

muhv · Postitus Postitas **muhv** » 23.02.2014, 09:55

Proovi

Kood: Vali kõik

sudo locale-gen et_EE.UTF-8
sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
sudo LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=et_EE.UTF-8 update-locale

Allikas:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/76013/ho ... ntu-server
http://blog.toxa.de/archives/535

Aga üldine soovitus oleks mitte kasutada täpitähti failinimedes. Eriti digiallkirjastamisel kus olen nii mõnelgi win-mac-linux kasutajatel probleeme näinud allkirjastatud dokumentide edastamisel (see viga on kirjeldatud ka ID kodulehel). Kes teab, mis kodeering (ANSI,UTF,ISO...) ning missugune keeletugi kuskil masinas on eriti kui on vaja teistele ka faili saata.

hjuumen · Postitus Postitas **hjuumen** » 23.02.2014, 11:53

Muud polegi häda, kui vaid see et mulle tuleb palju tööalaseid meile manustega ning tihti on need täpitähtedega. Tüütu on iga kord neid salvestada, et siis korraks vaadata. Tööandjale pole ju mõtet öelda, et tee ilma täppideta nimed, ta ütleb et kasuta siis windowsi

Kasutan pdf avamiseks okulari, vb peaks midagi muud proovima?

raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = "et:en",
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
Generating locales...
en_AG.UTF-8... done
en_AU.UTF-8... done
en_BW.UTF-8... done
en_CA.UTF-8... done
en_DK.UTF-8... done
en_GB.UTF-8... done
en_HK.UTF-8... hash collision (1688509771) en_HK.utf8, de_CH.utf8
failed
en_IE.UTF-8... done
en_IN.UTF-8... done
en_NG.UTF-8... done
en_NZ.UTF-8... done
en_PH.UTF-8... done
en_SG.UTF-8... done
en_US.UTF-8... done
en_ZA.UTF-8... done
en_ZM.UTF-8... done
en_ZW.UTF-8... done
et_EE.UTF-8... up-to-date
Generation complete.
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=et_EE.UTF-8 update-locale
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=et_EE.ISO-8859-1
LANGUAGE=et:en
LC_CTYPE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NUMERIC="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TIME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_COLLATE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MONETARY="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MESSAGES="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_PAPER="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NAME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ADDRESS="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TELEPHONE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MEASUREMENT="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ALL=
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

Postitus Postitas **sander85** » 23.02.2014, 12:02

Ma ei näe, et sa oleks esimese muhvi poolt välja toodud käsu ka sisestanud. Ehk siis sudo locale-gen et_EE.UTF-8 jäi käivitamata?

hjuumen · Postitus Postitas **hjuumen** » 23.02.2014, 12:23

Tegin uuesti läbi igaks juhuks:

raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo locale-gen et_EE.UTF-8
[sudo] password for raimz:
Generating locales...
et_EE.UTF-8... up-to-date
Generation complete.
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = "et:en",
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
Generating locales...
en_AG.UTF-8... done
en_AU.UTF-8... done
en_BW.UTF-8... done
en_CA.UTF-8... done
en_DK.UTF-8... done
en_GB.UTF-8... done
en_HK.UTF-8... hash collision (1688509771) en_HK.utf8, de_CH.utf8
failed
en_IE.UTF-8... done
en_IN.UTF-8... done
en_NG.UTF-8... done
en_NZ.UTF-8... done
en_PH.UTF-8... done
en_SG.UTF-8... ^[[B^[[B^[[Bdone
en_US.UTF-8... done
en_ZA.UTF-8... done
en_ZM.UTF-8... done
en_ZW.UTF-8... done
et_EE.UTF-8... up-to-date
Generation complete.
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=et_EE.UTF-8 update-locale
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=et_EE.ISO-8859-1
LANGUAGE=et:en
LC_CTYPE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NUMERIC="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TIME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_COLLATE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MONETARY="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MESSAGES="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_PAPER="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NAME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ADDRESS="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TELEPHONE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MEASUREMENT="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ALL=
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

mihkel · Postitus Postitas **mihkel** » 23.02.2014, 12:43

Vanakooli meetod oleks /etc/locale.gen (vähemalt nii on faili nimi debianis) faili käsitsi muuta ja siis locale-gen teha. Ehk ava oma lemmik redaktoriga juurika õigustes antud fail, kommenteeeri välja ainult soovitud lokaat - et_EE.UTF-8 - kõikidele teistele trellid # ette ja siis
sudo locale-gen
ning logi välja/sisse või tee reboot... kuidas soovid.

muhv · Postitus Postitas **muhv** » 23.02.2014, 18:55

hjuumen kirjutas:Tegin uuesti läbi igaks juhuks:

raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo locale-gen et_EE.UTF-8
[sudo] password for raimz:
Generating locales...
et_EE.UTF-8... up-to-date
Generation complete.
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = "et:en",
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
Generating locales...
en_AG.UTF-8... done
en_AU.UTF-8... done
en_BW.UTF-8... done
en_CA.UTF-8... done
en_DK.UTF-8... done
en_GB.UTF-8... done
en_HK.UTF-8... hash collision (1688509771) en_HK.utf8, de_CH.utf8
failed
en_IE.UTF-8... done
en_IN.UTF-8... done
en_NG.UTF-8... done
en_NZ.UTF-8... done
en_PH.UTF-8... done
en_SG.UTF-8... ^[[B^[[B^[[Bdone
en_US.UTF-8... done
en_ZA.UTF-8... done
en_ZM.UTF-8... done
en_ZW.UTF-8... done
et_EE.UTF-8... up-to-date
Generation complete.
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=et_EE.UTF-8 update-locale
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=et_EE.ISO-8859-1
LANGUAGE=et:en
LC_CTYPE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NUMERIC="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TIME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_COLLATE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MONETARY="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MESSAGES="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_PAPER="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NAME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ADDRESS="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TELEPHONE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MEASUREMENT="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ALL=
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

Tee nagu ennem näitasin aga jäta seekord "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" ära nii et kaks käsku ainult. Miis ta siis teeb

hjuumen · Postitus Postitas **hjuumen** » 25.02.2014, 07:12

raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo locale-gen et_EE.UTF-8
[sudo] password for raimz:
Generating locales...
et_EE.UTF-8... up-to-date
Generation complete.
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=et_EE.UTF-8 update-locale
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=et_EE.ISO-8859-1
LANGUAGE=et:en
LC_CTYPE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NUMERIC="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TIME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_COLLATE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MONETARY="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MESSAGES="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_PAPER="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NAME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ADDRESS="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TELEPHONE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MEASUREMENT="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ALL=
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

Ei muutunud suurt midagi.
Mida see "vanakooli meetodi" trellid ette tähendab(teeb)? Kubuntus on selline fail nagu- locale alias- kus on needsamad ee, en.... välja loetletud.

akbgf · Postitus Postitas **akbgf** » 25.02.2014, 08:30

Mida see "vanakooli meetodi" trellid ette tähendab(teeb)? Kubuntus on selline fail nagu- locale alias- kus on needsamad ee, en.... välja loetletud.

Trellid rea alguses tähendab, et see on kommentaari rida, mida seda konfifaili lugev protsess ei arvesta.

natsa · Postitus Postitas **natsa** » 25.02.2014, 10:42

http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/localepurge
Installimise ajal kävitab tabeli.

Vali sealt ainult vajalikud.

mihkel · Postitus Postitas **mihkel** » 25.02.2014, 11:28

hjuumen kirjutas: Mida see "vanakooli meetodi" trellid ette tähendab(teeb)? Kubuntus on selline fail nagu- locale alias- kus on needsamad ee, en.... välja loetletud.

/etc/locale.alias ei ole sama!
Mida ütleb:
locale -a

Kui locale.gen pole, siis teeb Kubuntu midagi teistmoodi, kui Debian. Guugeldasin ka veidi ja leidsin, et Kubuntu kasutab update-locale tööriista, nagu siin juba mainitud ning siis avastasin, et ka debianis on olemas update-locale

man update-locale
ütleb, et õige käsk võiks olla:
sudo update-locale LANG=et_EE.UTF-8
Seda ka juba siin mainitud, aga kontrolli, et /etc/default/locale failis oleks rida:
LANG=et_EE.UTF-8

Kui ei ole, siis proovi käsku:
sudo update-locale --reset LANG=et_EE.UTF-8

hjuumen · Postitus Postitas **hjuumen** » 26.02.2014, 19:27

raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ locale -a
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
C
C.UTF-8
POSIX
de_CH.utf8
en_AG
en_AG.utf8
en_AU.utf8
en_BW.utf8
en_CA.utf8
en_DK.utf8
en_GB.utf8
en_HK.utf8
en_IE.utf8
en_IN
en_IN.utf8
en_NG
en_NG.utf8
en_NZ.utf8
en_PH.utf8
en_SG.utf8
en_US.utf8
en_ZA.utf8
en_ZM
en_ZM.utf8
en_ZW.utf8
et_EE.utf8
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

selline tulemus locale -a peale, aga kui lihtsalt locale käsk, siis sama nagu enne:
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=et_EE.ISO-8859-1
LANGUAGE=et:en
LC_CTYPE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NUMERIC="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TIME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_COLLATE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MONETARY="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MESSAGES="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_PAPER="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NAME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ADDRESS="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TELEPHONE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MEASUREMENT="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ALL=
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

Proovisin vahepeal luua Libre Office Calc faili nimega -töötunnid-. Fail tekkis küll kausta, aga kui avada püüdsin, siis ütles et seda pole olemas, nii tegi ka varem.

natsa · Postitus Postitas **natsa** » 27.02.2014, 13:22

KDE avamenüüst vali: Help > UNIX manual pages > (8)Sys.Administration
> locale-gen

Kasulik teave.

Postitus Postitas **sander85** » 27.02.2014, 13:45

hjuumen kirjutas:raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ locale -a
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
C
C.UTF-8
POSIX
de_CH.utf8
en_AG
en_AG.utf8
en_AU.utf8
en_BW.utf8
en_CA.utf8
en_DK.utf8
en_GB.utf8
en_HK.utf8
en_IE.utf8
en_IN
en_IN.utf8
en_NG
en_NG.utf8
en_NZ.utf8
en_PH.utf8
en_SG.utf8
en_US.utf8
en_ZA.utf8
en_ZM
en_ZM.utf8
en_ZW.utf8
et_EE.utf8
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

selline tulemus locale -a peale, aga kui lihtsalt locale käsk, siis sama nagu enne:
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ locale
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
LANG=et_EE.ISO-8859-1
LANGUAGE=et:en
LC_CTYPE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NUMERIC="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TIME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_COLLATE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MONETARY="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MESSAGES="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_PAPER="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_NAME="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ADDRESS="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_TELEPHONE="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_MEASUREMENT="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
LC_ALL=
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

Proovisin vahepeal luua Libre Office Calc faili nimega -töötunnid-. Fail tekkis küll kausta, aga kui avada püüdsin, siis ütles et seda pole olemas, nii tegi ka varem.

Ma ei näe, et sa oleks proovinud Mihkli poolt soovitatud käskusid: fpost78335.html#78335 - mis nende tulemused olid, kui siiski proovisid?

mahfiaz · Postitus Postitas **mahfiaz** » 01.03.2014, 13:18

KUI lokaadivahetusega hakkama saab (mihkli viimane postitus), siis järgmine samm peaks olema failisüsteemis convmv-ga täpitähed õigesse lokaati teisendada.

Midagi sellist:
convmv -r -f ISO_8859-1 -t UTF-8 ~

Aga veelkord, seda ei maksa teha enne, kui lokaat vahetatud sai ja LANG= lõpus on UTF-8

hjuumen · Postitus Postitas **hjuumen** » 03.03.2014, 21:25

mihkel kirjutas:Seda ka juba siin mainitud, aga kontrolli, et /etc/default/locale failis oleks rida:
LANG=et_EE.UTF-8

Kui ei ole, siis proovi käsku:
sudo update-locale --reset LANG=et_EE.UTF-8

On selline rida olemas seal, see on ainus rida mis seal on.
Järgmise käsu- sudo update-locale LANG=et_EE.UTF-8 - peale tuli selline info:

raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$ sudo update-locale LANG=et_EE.UTF-8
[sudo] password for raimz:
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = "et:en",
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "et_EE.ISO-8859-1"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
raimz@raimz-kubuntu:~$

Postitus Postitas **imre** » 03.03.2014, 22:17

Proovi nii:

Kood: Vali kõik

export LANGUAGE=et_EE.UTF-8
export LANG=et_EE.UTF-8
export LC_ALL=et_EE.UTF-8
sudo locale-gen et_EE.UTF-8
dpkg-reconfigure locales